Category: Business Transformation Pitch With The CX Goalkeeper

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In this episode, Marilyn Suttle shares practical strategies for dealing with tough customers and employees while creating a work environment where everyone thrives. From her groundbreaking book, Who’s Your Gladys?, to her personal journey, Marilyn delivers actionable insights that redefine how leaders, teams, and organizations can improve customer interactions and employee engagement.

About the Guest

Marilyn Suttle has a proven track record of transforming customer relationships and elevating employee wellbeing.

She works with organizations that want to stand out as the business of choice.

A bestselling author, of three customer service books, including “Who’s Your Gladys? How to Turn Even the Most Difficult Customer Into Your Biggest Fan” Marilyn is the President of Suttle Enterprises, a personal and professional growth training firm that works with multi-cultural organizations.

Marilyn’s programs have a strong focus on developing communication skills and implementing wellbeing practices to handle even the most difficult clients and colleagues.

Her highly engaging programs, coaching, and consulting services are sought after by professionals across various industries, from Fortune 500 companies to startups. Marilyn’s extensive experience with online community management and social media has also helped brands engage deeply with their target audience, fostering strong and enduring customer loyalty.

As a speaker, Marilyn is known for delivering high-content, humorous presentations that engage and inspire action long after her programs end.

Relevant Links

Facebook: @marilynsuttle and @suttleshift LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/marilynsuttle

The Top 3 Key Learnings

1. Empathy First: Start with understanding and validating the customer’s or employee’s emotions. Simple phrases like “You’re right” can disarm tension and build trust.
2. Regular, Targeted Training: Replace generic customer service trainings with specific, actionable coaching sessions, like roleplays and feedback loops, to enhance skills and confidence.
3. Resilience Through Leadership: Leaders should prioritize their own well-being and model healthy work-life boundaries, fostering a culture of care and productivity.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

00:33 Meet Marilyn Suttle

03:09 Core Values and Passion

05:27 Handling Difficult Customers

09:29 Leadership and Employee Support

15:27 Resilience and Well-being

17:40 Personal Practices for Success

20:37 Setting Boundaries with Customers

25:34 Future of Customer Experience

27:14 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

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https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/3df0fa12-41df-4a82-9d39-12273ca65a1f/E277_-_Audio_-_Marbue_Brown.mp3?dest-id=5053835Marbue Brown defines customer obsession versus customer focus. He explains you start with the customer and work backwards. He contrasts companies that work backwards from product or profits. He draws on Amazon practices where the question, “what is the competition doing?” rarely comes up. He outlines five levels on the customer obsession continuum: customer indifferent, aware, focused, centric, and obsessed.

He gives cultural examples like hashtag thank you Thursday used by leaders to recognize employees and reinforce customer priorities across the organization.

Marbue explains tools to measure and act on customer obsession. He describes the customer obsession barometer built with Dr. John Hughes. It scores nine practices from his book Blueprint for Customer Obsession. The barometer separates top tier companies and identifies “obsessed customers” who recommend and repurchase. He gives Chase as a success story. Chase links employee obsession with customer results through listening, rapid actioning of feedback, branch visits, and recognition.

About Marbue Brown

Marbue Brown is founder of The Customer Obsession Advantage, a firm dedicated to helping companies achieve transcendent business results through Customer Obsession. He is an accomplished customer experience (CX) executive with a track record of thought leadership and signature business results at some of the most iconic companies on the planet, including JP Morgan Chase, Amazon.com, Microsoft Corporation, and Cisco Systems. As a CX leader, he guided the Chase Consumer Bank to record performance in the JD Power Retail Banking Study, NPS and branch satisfaction. He transformed the Andon Cord mechanism at Amazon.com from a primarily manually triggered to system to a primarily automated system triggered by machine learning and statistical models. The Andon Cord is one of Amazon.com’s most significant mechanisms it uses to personify its Customer Obsession culture. Marbue devised and codified the NSAT Improvement Approach at Microsoft, which was widely used by business units to dramatically improve CX as well as international subsidiaries who won nationwide awards in the process. He co-authored seminal articles about customer experience measurements that are widely cited in industry. He is a sought after speaker and published author on customer experience, business strategy and economic policy.

Relevant links:

http://www.customerobsession.net

Chapters:

0:00 – Intro

0:35 – Career Highlights and Key Achievements

4:13 – Winning in Customer-Centric Roles

9:13 – Understanding Customer Obsession

11:42 – Customer Obsession Continuum Explained

16:45 – Measuring Customer Obsession with Barometer

22:11 – Success Story: Chase’s Customer and Employee Focus

32:53 – Key Takeaways on Customer Policies

35:12 – Conclusion and Farewell

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/

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Greg Kihlström shares groundbreaking insights into how businesses can become experience-led enterprises. With real-world examples and a focus on innovation, Greg discusses digital transformation, agile methodologies, and the pivotal role of customer and employee experiences in driving success. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about transforming organizations and delivering exceptional value to customers and teams alike.

About the Guest

Greg Kihlström is a best-selling author, speaker, and entrepreneur, and serves as an advisor and consultant to top companies on marketing technology, marketing operations, and digital transformation initiatives. He has worked with some of the world’s top brands, including Adidas, Coca-Cola, FedEx, HP, Marriott, Nationwide, Victoria’s Secret, and Toyota.

He is a multiple-time Co-Founder and C-level leader, leading his digital experience agency to be acquired in 2017, successfully exited an HR technology platform provider he co-founded in 2020, and led a SaaS startup to be acquired by a leading edge computing company in 2021. He currently advises and sits on the Board of a marketing technology startup.

Relevant Links

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstrom

https://www.instagram.com/theagilebrand

https://www.gregkihlstrom.com

Episode Summary – The Top 3 Key Learnings

1. Four Pillars of Transformation: Effective digital transformation hinges on integrating people, processes, platforms, and data. While technology matters, success ultimately depends on how well organizations address human and procedural challenges.
2. Agile for Transformation: Agile methodologies can look different for every organization. Focus on principles like collaboration, adaptability, and delivering business value, rather than rigidly adhering to predefined methods.
3. Return on Experience: Investing in customer and employee experiences yields measurable benefits, such as increased customer loyalty, higher lifetime value, and improved organizational efficiency.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:33 Greg Kihlström’s Background and Career 01:55 Values Driving Professional Life 02:54 Digital Transformation Challenges 05:11 Measuring Return on Experience 09:23 Implementing Agile Methodologies 14:10 Practical Tips for Digital Transformation 16:47 AI in Digital Transformation 22:14 Future of Customer Experience 24:23 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

Follow Gregorio Uglioni on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/

Podcast webpage: https://www.cxgaolkeeper.com/podcast

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Top 3 Key Learnings

• AI native company pillars: Four safety pillars: code freeze, CICD, regulatory RL training, and harm reduction mechanisms.
• Test and freeze code: Freeze codebases and run automated tests to ensure predictable behavior and regulatory compliance.
• Trust via cost and trials: Lower cost and stepwise use build trust; people try low-risk services first then adopt more.

About Sebastian Graf

Sebastian Graf describes himself as an engineer by profession, but an educator at heart. In his work as an engineer, he is driven by the belief that technology should lift everyone, enabling people to live extraordinary lives in extraordinary ways. He acknowledges that this is challenging in a world where many technologies are built with incentives that divide society, exploit the environment, and widen wealth inequality. Sebastian is committed to reversing these incentives. His mission is to empower imagination and drive the creation of a positive social, environmental, and technological future that he believes is entirely within reach.

Sebastian’s linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastiangraf1/

Chapters:

0:00 – Intro 0:35 – Business Transformation Pitch Overview 1:09 – Sebastian Graf’s Background and Expertise 2:39 – Sebastian’s Mission with AI Native Companies 4:37 – Defining AI Native Companies 8:33 – Four Pillars of AI Native Companies 18:35 – Anthropic’s Vending Machine Experiment 22:24 – Engineering Resilience in AI Native Companies 26:31 – Building Trust in AI Native Operations 30:47 – Quickfire Round and Closing Thoughts 34:45 – Key Takeaways and Final Reflections

Resources:

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

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Key Learnings:

1. Admit leadership limits: Openly share small, real limits with your team to build reflection and performance.
2. Psychological safety matters: Create a safe team space so people speak up and help cover leadership gaps.
3. Use smart fast follower: Experiment early, then buy enterprise-ready solutions to avoid costly long-term build and maintenance.

Summary:

Fabian Ringwald is the CIO of a Swiss health insurance company. He says they have the most satisfied customers in the industry. He is also a board member at lead 26 and helps shape conference content and speaker selection. Outside work he runs ultra trails. He runs over 100 kilometers and gains more than 6,000 meters of altitude. These runs can take more than 20 hours and include day and night. Night is more challenging. The long runs teach self-leadership and a clear view of personal limits. Fabian argues that every leader has limits. He says hiding limits wastes energy because close colleagues already see them. He encourages leaders to share limits openly with their teams. Open discussion builds self-reflection and helps form a high performance team. Teams can then help fill leadership gaps. He highlights psychological safety as the key trait that separates good leaders from great leaders. He recommends starting small when opening up. Share a minor limitation first, set an example, and scale openness gradually over time.

Fabian says AI is not the solution for everything. He explains generative AI is a statistical tool and is not suited for fully deterministic tasks. He sees strong potential in areas like detecting anomalies on MRI or CT images, but he warns against using generative AI for direct medical advice. His company follows a smart fast follower strategy: experiment early with startups, then adopt enterprise-ready solutions rather than build long-lived custom systems. To keep agility, get top-down alignment with the board and enable bottom-up experiments with LLMs or ChatGPT for hands-on learning.

About Fabian Ringwald:

CIO of SWICA – the leading Swiss health insurer with the most happy customers Prior: digital transformation in several different industries from freight railway (SBB Cargo), energy trading (BKW), consulting (Logica) to inustrial manufacturing (Siemens) and Ravensburger, the well known jigsaw puzzle company.

Chapters:

0:00 – Intro 0:35 – CIO’s Role in Health Insurance 1:12 – Leadership Lessons from Ultra Running 3:06 – Identifying Leadership Limits 4:21 – Creating Psychological Safety in Teams 5:37 – Taking Small Steps Towards Openness 7:40 – Insights from Conference Speakers 9:13 – Evaluating AI Applications in Leadership

Resources Fabian Rinwald Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabianringwald/

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About the host:

Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

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On a recent Nepal expedition his youngest team member developed high altitude pulmonary sickness. The medical problem required bringing the person down quickly. Stefan decided the team must bring him down. He said the most important thing is that everyone comes back home safely.

Stefan spoke about risk and crisis. He said if you do not take any risk you do not get forward. He advised to push to the limit but not until it starts bleeding. Over years climbers develop knowledge to find that balance.

About Stefan Siegrist:

Professional Alpinist, Climber, Public Speaker. Stephan loves the mountains and he loves sharing the adventure Resources his webpage: https://stephan-siegrist.ch/

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Gregorio Uglioni is a seasoned transformation leader with over 15 years of experience shaping business and digital change, consistently delivering service excellence and measurable impact. As an Associate Partner at Forward, he is recognized for his strategic vision, operational expertise, and ability to drive sustainable growth. A respected keynote speaker and host of the well-known global podcast Business Transformation Pitch with the CX Goalkeeper, Gregorio energizes and inspires organizations worldwide with his customer-centric approach to innovation.

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